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Event Report: Joining Up Systems:

7th May 2010 Hamilton House
Mabledon Place, London

"A great event"

50 delegates attended this highly topical event in central London to explore this technical and cultural challenge.

Martin Sepion from RSC London gave an introduction to the day:

Running a college is tough these days with a host of different funding, national and local government, and regulatory agencies to satisfy in addition to the most important of all - the learner. Is technology part of the problem or is it part of the solution? This event sought to explore how integrated systems could lead to better outcomes for all a learning providers constituencies. The focus was on how effective systems could improve the efficiency of the organisation and the experience of the learner.     

We have the experience of different approaches to this challenge including several outstanding colleges such as Lewisham, Newham and Kingston College. 

Link to Martin's presentation

This was followed by some group discussion activities exploring expectations of organisational systems and how we assess a leaners expectations of college systems. What are the benefits, challenges and issues with integrating college systems.  

Group discussions

As a user what are your expectations of systems?
• Available anytime, anywhere
• Avoid duplicity and have consistent data from one source
• Intuitive to use for regular and occasional users – appropriate and useful training needed
• Authentication of users must be achievable easily and effectively – technical perspective
• System should know who you are, what you usually want and where to get it – intelligent systems that learn
• Systems should be friendly and not alien from a users perspective
• Judge me on using systems – how good am I? – pressure of the quality regime - Lewisham – soft roll out of Mahara
• Responsiveness to upgrades, problems from vendors, developers etc
• Feeling of trust in the system

What are your learners expectations of college IT?
• Users / learners – we are all learners
• Don’t expect the things you expect them to expect!
• Email – old fashioned! Facebook could be good or bad because FB is their space
• Level of internet access is not universal
• Learners want to feel safe in the VLE or other systems
• Safety issues generally should be taken seriously – smart use of technology can address safety issues
• Students like to know how they are doing; parents also – already happens in schools – FE / WBL needs to catch up
• Systems need to be unobtrusive rather than in your face
• Devolved responsibility for certain tasks – address changes, etc –the extension of this is student responsibility for their own ILP
• People want things to be done straight away – immediacy and flexibility
• Chunks of activity – organisation of interaction and being able to do something with it – engagement and interaction
• Arrogant assumption that institutional systems are data accurate
• Mobile friendly systems for access – ulearning – lack of device dependency

What are the key benefits of systems integration?
• That’s the wrong question: why is the system split into separate bits and not one system?
• Accessibility to one central piece of information – quicker access
• Giving you access to more information in the format you want/need at the appropriate level
• Improve organisational efficiency – timetabling and MIS will lead to better staff deployment (example)
• Joining up different ‘organisations’ within one – crossing compartmentalised hierarchies and structures

What encourages / discourages integration?
• Encourages – linked in; identifying and correction of inaccuracies;
• Discourages – security, proprietry systems; loss of jobs if systems are streamlined; risk of overload: if system goes down it goes down everywhere; previous bad implementations put off willingness to do new things; doing things because the system says so; transfer of existing paper system to online without review or changing business process – lack of bigger picture; understanding the benefits vs the costs – who does this and at what level in the organisation?; Vision exists but no strategy of how to get there exists; more thought into what they already have rather than get yet another system

Systems Diagram courtesy of Andrew Williams Kingston College

Different Approaches to Joining Up Systems

Web 2.0 approach to MIS – Mick Kahn ULCC
• Evolution of systems:  traditionally focussed on individual functions, joining up comes later on – no common approach beween institutions – sticking plaster fixes: spreadsheets and reporting tools not advised
• Rethinking strategy: holistic approach – involve all stakeholders inc champions – establishing principles of single source, automated information flow, remove duplication of effort and manual intervention, etc
• Developing strategy – start with how users will employ the system; have a vision and an incremental plan towards implementation and look externally to learn and review
• Personalised learning framework – James’ diagram on the interactions based on spheres of activity against wider requirements
• Shared services: economies of scale; control is retained within limits; need to define what is shared and what is retained separately; distinctiveness – understanding competition and collaboration; exploiting potential in Open Source?
• Standards – simplifies and enables interworking; funding and awarding body requirements drive the need for standard formats, etc; progression and transfer of students will be an issue in changing funding landscapes; economies of scale; open standards not the same as open source
• Web 2.0 MIS – unnatural fit? Works against the straight forward mentality; exploit the strengths of each system; mixed economy approach can be possible; iterative approach to development becomes possible; mashups as a rapid prototype; portalisation can be lightweight interface (Sharepoint etc)
• A Vision – system in the background supports the student; single username / password for everything; social networking; portability; reports are regularised but ad-hoc reports are possible and timely – access to the information you need.
Link to Mick's presentation

Integrating Systems on a Budget

Gerrard Shaw Redbridge Institute of Adult Education
• From a static website – to a student/staff portal
• My  Moodle portal; news feeds from Moodle to Facebook and Twitter;  feedback from students; guest access; graphics
• Live@Edu – presence in the Cloud – email, file storage, Office
• In Moodle the email, etc appears
• Student showcase
• Future vision – all web applications integrated into Moodle – appoint p/t Moodle person
• Q&A – signin – GoogleAps currently doesnot have Moodle integration, but watch this space over next six months – integration with MS Office and Live.
• Half hour to an hour a day developer time
Link to Gerrard's presentation

In house MIS

 Amrik Aujla Ealing Hammersmith and West London College

From the Nutty Professor to development of one system – various things make it work: vision/investment: corporation investment – bottom up implementation; enrolment and withdrawing within a culture of trust in 2002 but not now; partnerships with others – MIS taken precedence over VLE
Collaborative team for development
Domains – staff, student and common – move to DDA compliant, Firefox/IE7 compatible
Student tracking, enrichment
Staff / HR duplication needs sorting
Experience of in housedevelopment: pains include browser compatibility; documentation
Finance not joined in
Why are we not developing a service developed by the sector for the sector?
Curriculum director / approval system requested

In house Solution at George V

John Stout and Simon Cliffe King George V Sixth Form

MIS started 5 yrs ago – started running 4 years ago – Unite and eSchool replaced with other inhouse systems
Subsystems joined up
Pastor al log flagging / requirements
Attendance limits tracking etc
Requests as they come and listed
Next: integrated security; sharepoint introduction

Link to Simon and John's presentation

Final Thoughts

Martin Sepion

We saw a good range approaches and options presented. We also explored a vision of the potential technology has to transform education delivery into a much more personalised and engaging experience. What is clear is that the learning providers who get out and share ideas and good practice are the ones who make the informed and best choices for their students and staff. They are the organisations that succeed.  

A very stimultating and engaging event full of ideas and creative thinking.

Martin Sepion Senior Adviser, RSC London m.sepion@rsc-london.ac.uk

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